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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 05:21:00

Schools closed, so kids are at home with their families. this is a community with a lot of elderly people. people who in some cases depend on things like oxygen. so they were plunged in a matter of minutes into chaos. and that chaos is going to stretch from saturday night. now it s looking like until thursday. i spoke to a spokes person a duke energy and he said the vast majority of people aren t going to be getting the power back until then. and it s not just the darkness and being cold at night. it means a lot of people don t have running water. so it means you re not gonna get a good shower until thursday. people are struggling to find food, you can t really find an open guest station. you have to leave the county to get most of your resources right now. so it has this ghost town feeling to it. and all of the local anxiety that comes with all of that. so for me there was this realization i guess that a random act or set of actors couldn t in just such a short

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 02:47:00

Subject to certain political pressures. i think that that s unavoidable and it s particularly unavoidable when you re an elected official. i think it s very hard to fly under the radar when you have a constituency upset about you. there are high-profile cases that have a greater weight than all of the things you were doing, that nobody even notices that you are doing in the office, so of course. but what we want is to minimize the political impact. there are various different and i m sure you know this because of your investigation, but there are various different structural ways that you do that. fundamentally we rely on the character of prosecutors to be our backstop. i think people get upset and frustrated about that, but there just really isn t that much of a better way of doing it. it s imperfect but the power and weight and inertia of political pressure, you do have to build fire walls and protect your prosecutors and

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 05:17:00

The proud boys at an lgbtq event last month in nearby sanford, north carolina which is only about a half an hour away from moore county. by snooze points out today that this was a whole weekend of menacing anti-gay, anti-trans protests and multiple places around the country. including columbus ohio where, honestly, it looks like a gun show on the street outside one gay and trans friendly event with armed proud boys flashing white power signs and screaming at people, and white supremacist group called patriot front showing up information. white lives matter of guys doings hitler salutes, random guys with no apparent affiliation just turning up and full camouflage military style outfits with assault rifles. that was columbus, ohio this weekend. lakeland florida had neo-nazis this weekend outside a queer event. flying a big swastika, holocaust deniers showed up to another queer event in new york city this weekend as well. when more county, north carolina was host this saturday to another

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 02:09:00

Rifles that would penetrate the electrical transformers. members of the group estimated that would cost the government millions of dollars to recover. in addition, the defendants believed that time associated with replacing the substations would cause confusion and unrest for americans in the region. there were also conversations about how the possibility of the power being out for many months could cause a race war. initially without power across the country, they hoped it could cause the next great depression. people wouldn t show up to work, the economy would crash and there would be a ripe opportunity for potential white leaders to rise up. that plea agreement, unsealed by the government earlier this year, explains how these young men decided they would need to cause a big explosion as a distraction. they wanted to set off some kind of big explosion that would tie up the police and distract police from what they were going to do to the power substations, which is something, again,

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 05:09:00

United states. domestic terrorism plot was in furtherance of white supremacist ideology. the plea agreement in that case, again from earlier this, year spells it out. it says in the fall of 2019, two young man aged 21 age 21 meta on line for. i m one suggested to the other that they have to plan to take out electrical power substations in various parts of the country. try to set off civil unrest and to hopefully tried a set off a race war in the united states. this is from the plea agreement. , quote the plan was to attack the sub stations with powerful rifles that would penetrate the electrical transformers. members of the group estimated

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