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Stayed in his job. so i don t know that this will be the straw that breaks the camel s back. but it is unusual for there to be this sort of open and public defiance to a chief of staff in the corridor of the west wing. especially to the point they said it was so bad that aides thought that one of them might resign. that s a big fight right there. yeah. yeah. although we ll see what happens. i would take kelly if it devolved into a fight, i would take kelly in that fight. but we ll see. listen, i ve got to ask you. remember olivia was in the west wing last week and she said they put on this big display of how great they got along and how wonderful it was. i m wondering if this is another example that flies in the face of trump saying his white house is a well-oiled machine. ....
And from time to time these kinds of things erupt. it is unusual for the chief of staff to have another member of the presidential staff erupt in public like that against him. but you know, john kelly has suffered, you know, a series of indignities in this job. and he continues to stay there. secretary nielsen has been dressed down by the president at cabinet meetings. and the chief of staff has stayed in his job. so i don t know that this will be the straw that breaks the camel s back. but it is unusual for there to be this sort of open and public defiance to a chief of staff in the corridor of the west wing. especially to the point they said it was so bad that aides thought that one of them might resign. that s a big fight right there. yeah. yeah. although we ll see what happens. i would take kelly if it devolved into a fight, i would take kelly in that fight. but we ll see. listen, i ve got to ask you. remember olivia was in the west wing last week and she said they put on t ....
Olivia newsy in new york magazine last week. his white house runs like trump operations run. he s the hub. everyone else is sort of a sideshow to him. he likes conflict. he foemts conflict. he brings people in with conflicting views. and it hasn t been harmonious from the beginning and it s not harmonious now. those who are close to him argue that yeah, his methods are unconventional but he gets results anyway. and that s what matters. but at end of the day you do pay a price if there s incoherence in a white house. there are going to be situations that arise that require some level of coordination and cooperation. and if people are at loggerheads with each other and issuing conflicting kinds of orders and directives you re going to run into a problem down the line here. i hope you saw the president s rally because we re going to discuss it right after this break, david. okay. (mom vo) it s easy to shrink ....
Wonderful it was. i m wondering if this is another example that flies in the face of trump saying his white house is a well-oiled machine. olivia newsy in new york magazine last week. his white house runs like trump operations run. he s the hub. everyone else is sort of a sideshow to him. he likes conflict. he foments conflict. he brings people in with conflicting views. and it hasn t been harmonious from the beginning and it s not harmonious now. those who are close to him argue that yeah, his methods are unconventional but he gets results anyway. and that s what matters. but at end of the day you do pay a price if there s incoherence in a white house. ....
Don t think that we should conflate people who are perhaps a danger to anybody with people who are protesting and yelling. you know, yelling is not exactly going to harm somebody in public office. okay. stick around, everyone, because you know frank read ahead in the notebook, in the textbook here. olivia newsy has a great article out tonight about her completely unexpected meeting with the president and his most senior staff in the oval office, and you re going to want to hear it. that s next. ....