needed at all? why he keeps coming back? because for putin, it s very simple. putin s main goal was the call itself. what they talked about wasn t relevant because it showed to putin s gang that putin was in charge. he s a big boss negotiating with the biggest boss, the president of the united states. and then you have to look at the way russian state media presented the call, putin negotiating the fate of ukraine, a sovereign nation putin is currently invading, and again, let s is to be talking about if putin invades ukraine. putin has been invading ukraine. i don t understand how you can talk to putin at all without nato allies and ukrainians in the room. so, garry, what should biden have done? oh, it s americans keep talking about sanctions. so, why the sanctions not in place? so, sanctions, putin s oligarch buttons, the ones who help him