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as we sit down here like we do every single night to talk about the news of the day. it is always no holds barred. don t be offended because we have real conversations here that people have at home. and, it s not like you are offending me for saying something. we haven t done that for eight- and-a-half years. these are the folks i have gotten to know really well over the years and my first guest has become a good friend to me and i m so happy to have him on as my last first guest. he is a former metropolitan police officer who defended the united states capitol on january 6. this is his first interview for his new book. it is called hold the line. the insurrection and one cop s battle for america s soul. thank you for joining. how are you doing? thanks for having me. the last episode. i i know. the last episode. but this is not our last episode. but listen, i m going to get to the book and we will talk about our relationship and how how life has changed for you but ....
But, you have moxy to sit here. you are talking about the political landscape. everyone is sitting here going. but what i m telling you is not just me. you are talking strategy. we get that. this is what republicans at large are feeling. you are still a republican are you? yes.. oh herschel. all i know is look. many of these groups like the family research council excoriate me because i was pro abortion rights, pro choice and pro lgbt rights. how could i be a republican and have those types of values? i would be lectured piously by these people. herschel walker may have paid for abortions. if he was pro choice, that would be not a big story. but because he has taken this hard position, the hypocrisy is ....
Stretch but when there is this type of incoming fire, it is impossible to do your job. and there could be based on what we are hearing and reading some concerns that people may not believe what he is saying. and it is really hard. you think? it is hard. when you are on a campaign, you know, you are working 24/7. you are working extremely hard. it is hard to put your name on the line and your reputation on the line for someone. it is easier to fire the consultant than the candidate. this is really a good point. we have all worked on campaigns anted you are working 24/7. you put your heart on the line. you want to believe in this candidate that you are working your butt off for and if you don t, that will be. did he just come clean? he owes it to the people of georgia. of course. don. yes. but he is not going to. he keeps digging himself deeper. he doesn t have the character. yeah. oh herschel. ....