well, you re welcome, we the travel east point about taking the abstracting concretizing it, they re not thought experiments anymore, it s really humans lives and it s real peoples lives. i do think that public opinion is more on the side of common sense on these questions than the republican party s, and we ll see how that plays out. we will see, indeed, i m a sun studio, come back soon. i will. thanks for joining us this hour, tonight, as donald trump s former s vice president considers talking to the january 6th investigation, his former lawyer testifies before an atlanta grand jury, and his longtime cfo prepares to plead guilty in turn on the trump organization. despite the presidents considerable legal woes, he can t seem to find any qualified attorneys to represent him. oh speak to caroline, who joins us live. then we go down to florida, where republican governor ron desantis has given some new lessons for revisionist history, and christian nationalism. new y
qualified attorneys to represent him. carol lenning, who joins us live. then we go down to florida, where republican governor ron desantis has given some new lessons for revisionist history, and christian nationalism. new yorker writer, and dean of the jelani cobb will be in the studios to discuss, and president biden cancels promising jobs of the future, that never arrived. but we start tonight with mounting investigations into the former president of the united states. after last night s election in wyoming, donald trump appears poised to gain some allies in congress. but it comes as trump is quickly losing friends, basically everywhere else. today, trump s former president mike pence said he d consider talking to the january 6th committee. just this state on the january 6th, if they were to call you on the committee to come testify, would you be agreeable? if there is an invitation to participate, i consider it. any invitation to be directed to me, i d have to re
who lost their lives defending our nation and our freedoms. we re glad you re with us. with us today, we have my friend msnbc contributor mike barnicle. we re going to jump right into the news. the justice department is opening a review into the law enforcement response to the school shooting in uvalde, texas, after authorities there admitted to a stunning string of failures last week. this as the president and first lady jill biden visited robb elementary school yesterday and met with grieving families. nbc news correspondent sam brock has the very latest from texas. sam? reporter: jonathan, good morning. president biden spent most of the day on sunday in uvalde, texas, trying to provide consolation to lift up a community here that s so griff grief stricken. they want answers and accountability. all day, people have been coming to the memorial. president biden and dr. biden came out and laid flowers. all of this happening as a critical incident review was announced by th
humanity. i wonder, when you look at these moments, when you have the sort of white patriarchs offering a revisionist history, lost cause at the end of the civil war. and again, this sort of revisionist history and appalachia apologia when we feel like progress is being made. that the desantis is of the world, that organizations working to implement this kind of teaching in schools, are doing so because they feel like progress is on the doorstep? absolutely. this is the old dictum that he who controls the past controls the present. he who controls the present, controls the future. it s the kind of jingle waste viewed analysis of that. but still, the battle of the past is always about the president. it is about rationalizing a particular state of affairs that we see in the world right now. and so if we can diminish the claim of white racism and white
like a fence, like a graded fence they even mentioned. so it was weird because this is definitely when the flags were going off in my mind, where they were immediately kind of saying, no, there wasn t really this separation of church and state. which when you look at history, and you kind of know, maybe that s, you know, somewhat true, but it is definitely more complex and nuanced than the way they were presenting it, so lots of red flags were going off. i mean also, it sounds like they re advocating for a more pourous separation between church and state and not only saying, it was much more fluid, the relationship between church and state, and the founding fathers but that s the way american society should view structures today. yes. this conception, the founders decided strict separation of church and state and the