trump publicly claimed there were suspicious boat dumps in detroit, which were not suspicious after all, you know, for anybody who have been paying attention, not to mention his repeated attempts to get key republicans in michigan to go along with his lies about fraud. and they refused in the indictment, and they told trump repeatedly there was not fraud on any scale that would ve changed the outcome of the election. the indictment alleges trump knew his claims of fraud were false. are you confident that that s true that he knows it s false? i mean, he either knows they are false or is living in a state of denialism, despite an abundance of facts that would indicate they were false, both of which are troubling to me, both of which potential realities are troubling. the reality is the false slate of electors was submitted long after the legal process had been exhausted, a long after a lot of legal arguments have been made and rejected by individuals, lawmakers on both
she outlined trump s campaigns in so many ways the conspiracy that s laid out here. to lie about the election, the pressure on the vice president to not count the electoral votes, efforts to corrupt the justice department, pushing legislators and election officials to change the results in the states, fake electors scheme, summoning the mob to the capital, and she said this after outlining all those different parts of the conspiracy on successive days. every one of these elements of the planning for january 6th is in independently seriously matter. they were all ultimately focused on overturning the election and they all have one other thing in common. donald trump participated in each substantially and personally. he oversaw or directed the activity of those involved. she sacrificed her political
talk to him some months ago about the scheme put forward by jeffrey clark who s mentioned as i think coconspirator number four. in which he was trying to get donahue and the acting attorney general, jeffrey rosen to write letters to states, specifically georgia, but also others, saying that lying that the justice department had identified serious problems with the election. i asked donahue about. that let s roll a clip of we can. a letter claimed that the u.s. department of justice has signify identified quote significant concerns it impacted the election in multiple states including the state of georgia. equate was a true? no, it would ve created chaos in the states. i think it would ve been disastrous for our country and the constitution. but was not the point of the letter tigray chaos? i think so. so this isn t the first amendment issue despite the fact the trump s lawyer was
how he had been told by the lawyers who know better, the ones he has appointed to govern positions, these are false. and then trump goes on to repeats them as though they are true. and trump sees that as a reprise. he says something, he s told something, he goes out repeats it. the reason it s politically effective for trump to do this, there is no excuse for what he did. and so, the last refuge healthy scoundrel as the so-called first amendment. but in this case, the idea we are being silenced. the kind of grievance culture that trump has kind of created, a group of people in america being silenced by somebody. so he puts himself right and that seat. all i m doing is talking. they won t even let me talk. that is, i think, the great tragedy and the political culture that allows this type of thing to resonate with people. this is clearly going to be one of the most watched trials
streets with military and suppress the rebellion. this argument that we heard that the first amendment protects all speech, it does not. it doesn t. that s a lie. they can t even tell the truth when they re outlining their defense. here we go again. this proceeding is now going to become an extension of election denial and what donald trump did. liz cheney has said many times both during the hearing and since that donald trump remains a clear and present danger because he has perpetuated this. we just saw one of his counsel walking down the same road. let me pick up on that because we ve talked so much about what s in this indictment really being very reminiscent even trump s lawyer said some of what the january six committee spelled it. when liz cheney republican and vice chair of the committee, when she concluded her remarks,