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In new york, one where the man drove a truck and killed people, he instantly called for the end of what he calls chain migration, way call family unification, a law since 1965. after a man that did an attempted bombing on the subway here, he found out the man was in the diversity visa program and called quickly for scrapping a program that s been in place since 1990. there s no doubt in my mind, and i think no one watching doubts if this gunman was muslim or was an immigrant, an undocumented immigrant, donald trump would use either of those scenarios to jin up fear and try to get policies he wants in place that would be more extreme. that s the reality. no one could watch it and say it is not true. it is absolutely true. can you say it is not true, ben? i would say you re dealing with two different scenarios here. one, if you have someone that s come into this country illegal for the example he gave or someone that nuclear snuk in sn country who was a jihadist, that deals with a bo ....