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We have won in suburban areas. we ve won in urban areas. we ve won in rural areas. you didn t win in west virginia when the governor switched parties. jack, it s late. let him finish his point, jack. but democrats every single day mark was saying you don t want them to get comfortable with victory. but with donald trump being president of the united states democrats will not be comfortable. and there are a lot of moderates that will not be comfortable. i want you to hold that thought because i think that s very important. jack, make your point. conor lamb also had a message and i agree with, you know, all this this is good content. but he also had a message. and what his message was to the 70,000 union households in that district is i m a traditional democrat, i m going to stand up for union jobs. that s why he s pro tariff. that s why he s pro coal sxep also said i want to get to washington and not be a democrat or republican, i want to get what s right for pennsylva ....
They re going to put the right people forward. the republicans are not going to have it as easy this time because people know we re going to put up a big fight. four different time zones. it s that big. you said three. there s four. and if you count hawaii there s five. so it is a very big country. listen, i want to mark that because i do want to talk about at some point with my panel here in the studio about this litmus test that democrats have had for such a long time for their candidates and maybe things will change. steve, what do you think this race came down to? was it a referendum on trump or was it more than just that? you know, i think to quote tip o neill, all politics i think is local. and this was a local race with a very good candidate in conor lamb and i think a lackluster candidate, to be honest, in saccone. the lesson to try to draw comparisons to trump is that saccone is not trump. to his discredit p and lamb to his credit is not hillary clinton. he s much, much be ....
Congress has been delinquent in holding him accountable. and i tell you what, these tweets every day and being depressed and stressed out every day by donald trump tends to focus the mind. you re going to have a much smarter democratic party in 2018 than you had in 2016. and focus about listen, i ve got to run. thank you both. i appreciate it. i want to bring back mark preston now, bakari sellers, amanda carpenter and scott jennings. so listen, bakari didn t get to speak last time. so what do you think, bakari? i think bakari is very happy tonight. listen, let me go around. i have a lot of thoughts. i want to start first with mark preston. earlier today he regurgitated a comment that was made by barack obama about clinging to your guns and your bibles but he failed to acknowledge the fact that barack obama won pennsylvania twice and as amanda brought up in the break he won union households as well. it goes to a deeper point. fact that what conor lamb did and i hate to refute ....
steve said we have a bunch of old social justice warriors and we re moving away from what conor lamb is. the fact is this. the democratic party has to be both. because what doug jones was was a social justice worker. what conor lamb is, he s somebody who s very pro union, going out there, and they can win in their respective districts. but you know what both doug jones and conor lamb, were they weren t anti-trump zealots. you didn t see them lighting their hair on fire about trump. they knew the anti-trump momentum was there on the ground and they didn t have to push the they ran on policy. disciplined about that. and while the unions were on the ground organizing which we have to talk about what is happening with the unions, what happened in west virginia with the teachers strike. they re getting organized in places like oklahoma, kentucky, red states where unions have a big presence. republicans better be on the lookout. i do have to say this before i let you get in. doug ....