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Can call it that, no idea really, it just falls by the side, they didn t inspire future generation to join the church. if you are denouncing celibacy as a rule. people are loathe to pick it up. that is the problem. liliana, how do you understand this broader shift on gay marriage? i can t claim to necessarily. you know, but i was thinking as you were talking about the onion headline from a few years back, pope changes mind on same-sex marriage after meeting like steve and dan or something. and it s great, it s hilarious, it speaks to a central truth. which is generational. which is all of these things. the more people, the more we know people personally, the more it s very easy to shift on this. and you know, having conversations with like kids today is really interesting. and yes, i m in new york city, so maybe it s slightly different from other parts of the country. but there s this sort of no-brainer aspect to it and the ....

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