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and stolen. that view was wrong then and it is wrong today. that comes as the justice department is ramping up its criminal investigation into the fake electors scheme that was concocted by trump and his allies with federal agents delivering grand jury subpoenas to at least four people yesterday. this is at a scale that we had not seen before from doj. it raises questions about how deep they are in to the fake elector scheme with their investigations. we will have much more on that in just a moment. that is the justice department branch of all of this. the congressional side of the investigation picks up in a few hours with a new hearing focused on the former president s pressure campaign to get the department of justice to intervene in the 2020 election. joining me now ellie honig former federal prosecutor. we can tell a lot by this witness list today. we can, john. let s set the scene. mid-december 2020 now it s about a month and change after the election, we are ....