this. tables bag mother. i don t know, derogatory term they use to describe mrs. pence. take me through this. that s actually it s a term of endearment. mike pence would always call his wife, karen mother. that was his nick yam for her. and donald trump was always fascinated by mike pence s relationship with his wife because obviously these two gentleman are very, very different. [ laughter ] in terms of family relations and what have you. and, so, there were always these stories about how mike pence and karen pence would be holding hands or they d be praying and trump would walk by and sort of bellow out, oh, look at them, they re so in love like teenagers. and trump was so amused by pence calling his wife mother that when he found out about the access hollywood tape and mike pence went back to indiana and basically went awol for 48 hours. trump was genuinely worried about pence. he was genuinely worried that he could lose pence. so he got off the phone and he