That is true for the speakers as well and the audience. So i will not use any time to repeat what the speakers would need for introduction, but they come from three important perspectives on the debate. This is obviously a law and policy conference. I think that we will discuss a little bit more law than we have discussed in other panels, and hopefully a little policy as well. So the broad theme for the panel which is true for a lot of the immigration stuff since trump took over is some important issues having been sort of shuttled between and among three branchs of the government. In one way of the wall leaning from one branch of the government, and each branch of the government is putting the can in the other persons lap, and hoping that the can will stop there somewhere. Many of the cans have not stopped. So this is the chance to see where the cans are and where they will finally land. So i will begin talking to the panelists in more of a conversation topic, and so we can get into t