willie: i ve been married four times, and traveling on the road the way i do or did or whatever, is not healthy for marriages, i don t care whether it s me or whoever. and the last 32 years, i ve been lucky to be with, you know, a lady that understands me. we travel together or we don t. very independent-thinking. so we managed to hold it together and raise a couple of great kids. harvey: there s a story about shirley that i guess that fell apart when somebody sent her the invoice for the birth of a baby. i could see how that would upset her. yeah, not her baby, but your baby. that kinda did it there, didn t it? well, it didn t help the situation. you know, you have, um, a band that is with you all the time, and it s almost like the band becomes your family on the road. - i mean, is that fair? - willie: very fair. we are family.
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country music is three chords and the truth. and that s pretty that s pretty close. i wanna talk about a little bit just about your social activism. you are a liberal guy politically, and your audience is not necessarily that. yet they don t have any problem with that. and in our society, that seems to be the deal breaker. not with you. willie: i don t mix politics with the audience. they would never know what my political mind is just by our show. they shouldn t. it s not part of the deal. i don t care what they think about anybody. it s their prerogative. i just got a new song, that if you don t like who s in there, vote em out. that s what election day is all about. yet there are so many entertainers who take political stands and alienate part of their audience. well, that s their choice, and they probably maybe did or didn t know
willie: i ve been married four times, and traveling on the road the way i do or did or whatever, is not healthy for marriages, i don t care whether it s me or whoever. and the last 32 years, i ve been lucky to be with, you know, a lady that understands me. we travel together or we don t. very independent-thinking. so we managed to hold it together and raise a couple of great kids. harvey: there s a story about shirley that i guess that fell apart when somebody sent her the invoice for the birth of a baby. i could see how that would upset her. yeah, not her baby, but your baby. that kinda did it there, didn t it? well, it didn t help the situation. you know, you have, um, a band that is with you all the time, and it s almost like the band becomes your family on the road. - i mean, is that fair? - willie: very fair. we are family.
i tell the joke that the pawnbroker played it better than i did. and you go retrieve it. i d would retrieve it for a saturday night. i love something you said, that the picking finger is the second most important part of the body. care to say what the first is? i forgot i said that. you did say that. it was pretty funny. - you were a dj for a time. - right. would you honor me with the way you introduced your show? this is your ol cotton-pickin , snuff-dippin , tobaco-chewin , stump-jumpin , gravy-soppin , coffeepot-dodgin , dumplin-eatin hillbilly from hill county willie nelson. where d you get the dumpling eating? i don t know. it was kind of euphonious, you know? harvey: rolling stone has called you, justifiably, one of the great singer-songwriters of all time. didn t start out easy for you, though, did it?