weisselberg has been involved with the trump family for the last 50 years. knows where the bodies are buried. weisselberg and cohen together are lethal witnesses. there were a lot of other names mentioned. we have been talking for quite some time how there s increased scrutiny with regard to trump organization, looking what s happening inside the trump organization. who could be brought forward. could this create further legal troubles for the president if this were to go down? yes. trump is very well aware of that because he s been saying since last year if investigators looked into i had personal finances when you say investigators is it more likely investigators from the mueller problem or the sdny? both. investigators from the mueller probe has subpoenaed the trump organization for documents. if mueller feels something has fallen outside the scope of his
not unusual. we frequently conduct investigations and build cases and prosecutions on the basis of cooperators and witnesses who have credibility problems. there are ways to address those problems in court, as long as the witness has admitted the misdeeds and the lies that he s stated prior to that fact and has taken some sort of responsibility and culpability for it. they can still provide testimony that is compelling and relevant to a prosecution. with what you ve heard from the southern district, where they gave him, like, a qualified check, right? they said he was kind of helpful to us, he didn t want to give us other information. the mueller problem more effusive in their praise for him, saying he was credibiliblc. how does that wash out for him? well, i think he clearly is getting credit for the mueller folks for providing information that is directly relevant. i know of interest to them an their investigation. maybe not so much so for the southern district prosecutors who ar
york district attorneys expected to charge manafort seemingly checkmating him. but before on the sentencing memo, you covered and reported extensively on what we learned, these tea leaves we glean about the mueller problem. as joyce referenced, we learned in some of the testimony in the transcript from a closed-door hearing that at least in andrew weissmann s mind, the contacts between manafort and kilimnik are at the center of the mueller probe. what does that sort of predict or foreshadow in terms of what we might see today? well, i think we don t exactly know but certainly anything that we would learn around that specific instance is very significant because of the way you just said that weissmann framed all of this. the other thing we learned sometimes through these memos that can be significant and open a new window, a lot of times we will see senior campaign official one named. individual one. individual one or something
kilimnik are central to what s being prosecuted. i don t know that we ll learn more in this sentencing memo. we could. the interesting possibility and we just don t know if it will come to pass or not would be if there is some sort of a conspiracy indictment in the works or if the report that goes up to the hill that goes to the attorney general first, if that s referencing conspiracy, that may be the point at which we learn what these conversations between kilimnik and manafort amounted to. carol, i want to ask you about news today that the new york district attorneys expected to charge manafort seemingly checkmating him. but before on the sentencing memo, you covered and reported extensively on what we learned, these tea leaves we glean about the mueller problem. as joyce referenced, we lerd in some of the testimony in the transcript from a closed-door hearing that at least in andrew weissmann s mind, the contacts between manafort and kilimnik are at the center of the mueller p
these legal fees have been mounting and he s having a hard time paying them. i think making money is a top priority, and he uses social media to do that and he plays the victim card to do that. very interesting. joining me now, nbc news intelligence national security reporter ken dilanian to talk a little more about this as well. i ve got to tell you, ken, one feature of some of this coverage we ve done the mueller problem broadly has been judge is getting very irritated by the bad behavior of various people who have been indicted for various things. this just seems like an incredibly bad plan. yes, roger stone s worlds are colliding. he was living in the political world. he was an agent employ volk tour. he s gotten so used to saying outrageous things to say money on social media. i guess he didn t understand there would come a time where he would be sitting in front of a federal judge who would be grilling him exactly how he got her picture, who put it on his phone? there could b