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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20190924 03:09:00

Freelancing diplomatically and much more directly and explicitly prodding the ukrainian government to restart an investigation that they hoped would bring political dirt on the biden family. this is a white house, a trump white house, that is used to being under siege. there was of course the two and a half-year saga with the mueller investigation culminating in the mueller report, mueller s testimony recently. there have been a million other controversies, flare-ups, moments when the white house was forced to defend a comment from the president, allegation against the president, these sorts of things. how is the white house regarding the developments in the last 24 hours specifically relating to democrats in impeachment? do they view this as par for the course or do they view this as something different? so the impeachment development is quite new but sort of just first generally speaking and this is not everyone in the white house and in the president s orbit. there are some peop ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20190924 03:16:00

Investigation and congressional investigations of that, the white house is pretty much stonewalled on just about every request they ve had from congress. they exerted executive privilege to prevent former aides from testifying. they refused to hand over documents. so this is just another example where they re not going to give an inch. so far and some of these cases are making their way through the court system but so far it has been a pretty effective strategy for the white house and has put democrats kind of on the defensive and confused about their next step. i think the way the trump white house views it is they re going to fight every single thing and win or lose ultimately it s a win to sort of be aggressive toward the democrats, put them on the defensive, and make them fight for every bit of information. anita, there has ban school of thought out there, certainly you heard this during the mueller investigation, the mueller saga, some political level, some strategic level the ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20190924 03:17:00

President would welcome the idea of impeachment, the idea he could then sell to his base that he was under attack from the democrats, they would stop at nothing to try to get him out of office. maybe some sense that might help him with swing voters and make the democrats look like they are over reaching. that was often offered in the context of the mueller investigation. do you think that would apply to this situation? do you think there would be danger the white house would see because this is a different matter than the mueller investigation? president trump is doing exactly as he did before. he is using the exact same terms out of the same playbook. strategy. the media, it s the democrats, it s the deep state all out to get him. i think he is planning on using that. he is starting to use that. he thinks that will be effective. look, i ve talked to trump supporters who feel that this is just like russia, russia again all over again and they are saying that because they re hearing t ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20190924 03:18:00

Understanding. i do think he thinks it will be effective if he has to go that route. greg miller, bringing you back in, we mentioned this at the top as well, some of the other breaking news tonight that there are seven freshman members of the house, seven democratic freshman members of the house all with national security backgrounds endorsing the idea of impeachment. they say if these allegations are true here, if the suggestions are true about what the president was up to, in his dealings with the president of the ukraine, but all of them endorsing impeachment under those circumstances. it does we say there are differences between the russia investigation, the mueller investigation, and what is now potentially being discussed. one is you clearly see here from the democrats standpoint a national security, urgent national security justification that they are prepared to use here in this situation it seems. yeah, and i think it s not just the democrats in congress. you just used ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams 20190924 06:17:00

Court system, but so far it has been a pretty effective strategy for the white house, and it has put democrats kind of on the defensive and confused about what their next step should be. so i think the way the trump white house views it is they re going to fight every single thing and win or lose ultimately, it s a win to sort of be aggressive towards the democrats, put them on the defensive and make them fight for every bit of information. anita, there has been a school of thought that s out there. certainly you heard this during the mueller investigation, during the mueller saga, that on some political level, some strategic level, the president would welcome the idea of impeachment, the idea that he could then sell to his base the idea that he was under attack from the democrats. they would stop at nothing to try to get him out of office. maybe some sense that that might help him with swing voters, make the democrats look like they re overreaching. na that theory was often offered ....

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