warren buffet is 80 year s old, selling berkshire hathaway stock, no. [laughter] he can be quite forceful and quite good, he has to deal with this somehow otherwise it s going to dog him. paul: dan, i want to ask philosophical question of age and the presidency, the oldest leader, modern western leader was conrad, chancellor germany in the post era, 14 years until he was 87, great leader of germany, okay, but we haven t had that kind of an old leader here in the united states and there s a question you and i both know people in 80 s and 09 s, some sharp and really on it but others can deteriorate rapidly, should we be thinking and debating somebody serving until late 70 s or early 80 s can do the job? well, i think it s a legitimate issue for voters to think about, look, paul, if that if that election were this november, then so what?