new tampa bay times / miami herald poll. in new hampshire, a wmur poll has the race tied at 47%-47%. steve, what about that? when you see an incumbent president at 47% tied, that indicates to me that that state could well wind up in the mitt romney column. let s go to another state. and the big question, mika, is whether this poll is an outlier. or something s going on here. 47%-47% tied. in pennsylvania according to a tribune-review poll, pennsylvania has naught gone republican since 1988. david gregory, they say this is a republican-leaning poll, a republican-leaning newspaper and this poll is not to be believed. there were polls, though, last week out that showed a three-point race. this race a lot tighter than it should be. that s the point. one of the obama advisers said look, we re going to have to take a haircut from some of these strong states in 2008. it doesn t mean we re going to lose them, but if it s a three,
did the two sides work together? not a bit of it. not from the start. why would it be different this time? well, because it has to be. well, what are we going to do, go off the fiscal cliff? they ll come up with some they ll patch and fix in the lame-duck session, and that s it. forced. you were showing me a map, mark halperin, a couple blocks back where mitt romney could lose nevada, ohio, iowa, pennsylvania, michigan, a lot of states and still win. which one what s that map look like? well, this is not a prediction by any means. it s something ari fleischer, former bush press secretary, floated last night on the twitters. and again, i think the trick is, it s the assumption the president s got a commanding position in the electoral college. this is a way he found to get governor romney to 270 without winning ohio, pennsylvania, minnesota or iowa. so he wins all the mccain
that mr. romney has no good ideas and mr. obama has plenty. oh, my lord! is this a comic book version of the new york times editorial page, or is it the editorial page? no. this is what the paper believes. and if you trust the new york times. there are a lot of great reporters who don t have a two-dimensional view of the world. what s your problem with it? i know you agree with it. i do. i agree with every word of it. chime in. republicans bad, democrats good. so say the new york times. what say you? i think it may be a hollow argument for mitt romney, but it s a real argument. republican obstruction will continue no matter what the president does if he gets re-elected, whether it s a one, two or seven-point margin. he had seven points last time and republicans never got out of campaign mode. the question is joe biden talked to chris matthews yesterday. he said the fever will break if the president wins re-election, which he believes will happen by
i would ask you, mark, about ohio. we ve sat here for weeks and said this is really going to come down to ohio. that poll was two points. the president has had some polls over the last week that showed him with a bigger lead. where are you hearing this race is right now? it depends. where can republicans look for hope, a lot of these polls the president s ahead, but governor romney s doing well with independents. and whoever wins independents in ohio s going to win, probably. almost certainly. and i think that the president has wait, let me stop you there. let me stop you there. yeah. because every republican i ve talked to that knows how to run campaigns, they say if you win independents by five or six points, you win ohio. in every single race. and yet they re up in a lot of polls by double digits among independents. and they re losing ohio. this is what s driving republicans mad. they see this huge win among independents, but they re still losing. explain that. well, i
a big margin in the electoral college. i don t know that the fever will break even if you think it is a fever. they are going to carry on, doing what they ve done because it worked for them in 2010. it will probably work for them in the next midterm. it won t. can i just say also, it s what they believe in, too. and let me also say this. if mitt romney comes with a package that s heavy on tax increases and heavy on spending, the house republicans will kill that bill, too. oh. so it may be a fever i mean, i understand democrats thinking that s a fever. joe biden believing that. but we kind of believe in smaller government. and the new york times saying this president that s exactly what we need right now. that s rolled up trillion-dollar deficits, being responsible on deficits, that strikes some of us as funny, mark. i wonder what they think of mary reed putting out a statement saying if mitt romney wins, his agenda is dead on arrival in the senate. yeah. seems