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which is always been the case for people of color, journalists around the world, they are the only people who can talk about their humanity. so why that mainstream media complex is saying, we do not believe you. you are not telling the truth. nothing that they, say nothing that so when i see these people, when they raise their dead children before cameras, i have so much, it s got fronting. i ve been to palestine myself. i honestly look at them, and i start, i pray for them. and i look at them and say, no matter how hard you try, there is a larger media network that is going to look at your baby, those dead children, the way they look at the children and the people who i was helping in ukraine. until we do with the racial dynamic of what s at play here, be honest, it s not going to change. thank you, my friend. and reporter: independent journalist terrell jermaine starr s is independent journalist and founder of block diplomatic and has an official youtube channel for s

Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 16:05:00

nikki haley, though she is still polling far behind trump. there is evidence that trump himself might see haley as a growing threat, as he has targeted her this week with the same kind of false attack that he once used against both ra obama and ted cruz. trump pledged to a six half million followers on truth social, but hailie, ironically, is ineligible to be president because her parents were not u.s. citizens when she was born. well that part is true, but that has no effect on her eligibility to be president. nikki haley was born in south carolina, and has lived in the united states her entire life. joining me, now nbc news correspondent dasha burns, live from des moines. now on this you said last time, josh was there for. us vaughn hillyard, donald trump assad to host a rally later today. steve benen, joining us today. he s a producer for the rachel maddow show, and he s a editor for the rachel maddow blog, and the bulk of the impostors. our publicans quick governing and seized amer

Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 16:31:00

so the victimhood, i am persecuted works to give a rationale for why they need immunity. and it s been like this ever since mussolini. all remind people, the first dictatorship was set up because mussolini had been he was fingered for being part of a political assassination, need to make his problems go away, because needed to at least be prosecuted, so he declared dictatorship in 1925. reporter: joyce, we ve all depend on the idea that the law works. the institutions largely work. donald trump may have tried to subvert some of them, but generally speaking, other than the policy decisions, things like the fall of roe v. wade, that the institutions held. now that we understand this way of thinking, i understand all trump is gonna try and get out of a political prosecution. if this really does fall his way, are you concerned that

Transcripts for MSNBC Velshi 20240604 16:29:00

yeah, and i would say given that we heard the audio clip, the fact that trump s lawyer was referring to killing a political opponent, is simply a controversial decision, tells you a lot about the total lack of morals, or maybe the authoritarian version of morals that we are working with here. and to remind everybody that authoritarianism is a political system, that i executive branch and leader ranges government so that not only is past problems of which trump has many, his ego problems will go away forever, but that he ll be able to do whatever he wants without paying any consequences. so the fact, there also, is that it s always worse than you think it s going to be. that s the other rule of authoritarianism. people don t imagine what can be done. and they re always surprised, around the world first century, that it s so bad. reporter: one of the things that trump wanted, there was seems there were two moments in

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particular evangelicals, who were talked about this, with whom we ve spoken, in the new york times has written about, and tim alberta has written entire book about. they are believing this line about, i m being prosecuted for you. you and i talked about this, we start seeing these things. and i thought, why would anybody believe this? because nobody else is being prosecuted. they made the connection to jesus christ dying for their sins, and donald trump being prosecuted for them. and it is working. reporter: i believe it s been strongmen, because they believe in him. that is the import of the cult of personality, the leader colten all of this. once people bond to the leader, and believe that he has moral reason to be in power, and then religious institutions enable him by saying, oh yes, he was placed there by the will of god. so there is a moral rationale. there s also emotional bonding.

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