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focused on violent military tactics. i want to bring in national security analyst, julia, a former department of homeland security assistant secretary and she is also the author of the devil never sleeps, learning to live in an age of disaster. thank you for coming on. as terrifying as the attack on the capital was, with this new information, do you get the sense that it could ve been much, much worse? absolutely. the amount of weaponry that the proud boys alone had, as well as the oath keepers, just suggests that they were ready for some sort of activity that would ve been much more violent than what we saw. then, the question is, why did that happen? and in some of the filings we have seen so far in particular, in the cases against the oath keepers, because remember, a number of the oath keepers have now pled, they have turned against leadership, so we are learning a lot about what the planning was, they were waiting for some moments, some triggers, some activation from t

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