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But do not forget that for eight years putin has been telling the west and the russian people that russia is not the site in this conflict, in the east of ukraine. that was basically a civil war between russian speakers, ethnic russians in the east, and the pro western neofascists in the west of ukraine. but russia has nothing to do with it. i think if we were to see a military scenario, it is more likely to be those russian proxies, the separatists, leading it, leading the charge, expanding their control, liberating, in their language, the rest of the donbas region, which currently russia only holds about 30% through separatists of the donbas territory. they could certainly go further. russia could then say, ok, ....
Something like this. in that part of eastern ukraine where there are russian speakers, the russian government has issued something like 600 to 800,000 russian passports. so those people are now considered by moscow, by putin, to be russian citizens. under the guise of protecting them, you could imagine some limited russian military action that further weakens ukraine, further forces the ukrainian military to act. that seems a much more realistic military scenario. and even that he may not do, but i think that s the nature of the military scenario and that s why you re try to talk about the other nonmilitary ways, but the goal is the same. to make ukraine weak and to make it eventually beg for peace from moscow. all right. let s change subjects a little bit here. you have a special on china and president xi on cnn tonight. and china has been flying war ....
Invasion of ukraine, the united states together with our allies and partners will respond decisively and impose swift and severe costs on russia. it goes onto say that further invasion of ukraine would produce suffering and president biden was clear with president putin that while the united states remains prepare tone gauge in diplomacy in full coordination with our allies and partners, we are equally prepared for other scenarios. griff, that s the official read of out, other areas as we are talking about, a potential military scenario. we know that 3,000 troops are on their way to poland to protect nato countries in the area and we have also been reporting that americans are being told to leave ukraine as soon as possible. i was on the phone with a senior state department official ....
Korea this time about a year ago, a littleab earlier in the march time period and at that time there was a great deal of concern about thehe military an strategicnc implications becaus as everyone well knows and as u.s. k military officials know seoul is in artillery range of north korea and whatever military scenario you have that is a lot of firepower that can rain down heref awfully quickl. it would be very difficult for the u.s. even with all its assets to take all those artillery pieces out because they re buried in the mountains. some of the rand corporation estimatesn are something like 250,000 civilian casualties in the opening hours of a conflict. so that s widespread here. it s felt. but they ve also seemed to live with that v fear and they ve accepted it.ha now, on the economic frontac that s a different story. and you talk about economic advisers to the u.s. government or youlk talk to south korean economists. there is concern about how south korea would absorb north korea ....
Jong-un, yet he still proceeds. as elise said it is the grisliest military scenario. show we have to use our military might, i guess what he s suggesting talking about big buttons that work it is the grisliest scenario. there are tens of thousands of american lives at risk. there are potentially hundreds of thousands of south korean lives at risk. a white house adviser today told me that when a tweet like this goes out, members of the foreign policy team do go in to the oval office and explain, we don t care about kim jong-un s feelings, and you probably didn t insult the size of his button, but you made south korea, back to your point, joel, very nervous. right. i think that that s what keeps me up at night. the fact that the president doesn t quite grasp the enormity of his responsibility. not just to the american public but also globally. i think that it s irresponsib irresponsible that s an ....