the hands and mariupol with replacements. these are not well-trained units. the russians got a significant challenge to overcome. colonel, i spent high school representing a navy town in florida and fort walton beach, you grew up with children of fathers who fought in vietnam, heard the stories of profound cultural problems in the military culture from 75 to 79, 80, sort of this post vietnam era. it may have taken the united states quite a few years to readjust this military culture post vietnam.