said, hey, to rudy giuliani explain how they could get these charges dropped. our reporting shows rex tillerson then the secretary of state was appalled and said he was not going to be involved with this. we don t drop charges essentially against people who are under criminal prosecution in federal court, and tillerson warned then chief of staff john kelly that this made him uncomfortable. mike flynn one of the thing he s probably going to do prison time for and facing sentencing is being an unregistered foreign agent of turkey on the campaign. and on the day of election in 2016, the greatest op-ed out of nowhere michael flynn says the u.s. should deport a cleric who s living in the poconos back to turkey because turkey needs it. that turns out to be the other huge foreign policy policy of erdogan and giuliani wasologist
you serve at the pleasure of the president of the united states. let me add we all served in the white house, and the oath that you take is to country and you promise to be loyal to the country. there s no oath that any of us took to the presidents we served. so what is it about is he missing a chip? is it the ignorance defense again? you said you re willing to go work in this white house. would you need to know the answer to whether or not the defense to everything he s accused of doing wrong is he doesn t know the answer or he s willing to sor of blow up decades of tradition in terms of the independence of the fbi? what would make you more comfortable if you were going to go into this white house? look, what ultimately is going to make us and the media and everyone else more comfortable is what was in his heart when he said these things? whose heart? in the president s. why does that matter? he broke a law is it legal to ask the fbi director to back off an investigati
specifically mike flynn. yes. i mean, i think the kushner thing is a huge story. as you say, the mike flynn one also. i think that to take erin s point, what we see here, the kind of flames from this controversy creeping closer and closer to president trump himself. we now have his son-in-law allegedly setting up a secret channel, or trying to set up, i should say, a secret channel to moscow. mike flynn having allegedly discussed sanctions with the russian ambassador during the transition period when he had no right to do so. it s expecting quite a lot of people to imagine that president trump had nothing to do with this, was unaware of these kind of things. and i think that s part of the problem for him, as well as the capacity of these controversies to detract from his legislative agenda and things of that nature. of course, the president would like to have plausible deniability on this. erin, is a white house shakeup