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Section 1001. for a lay person it is referred to as the martha stewart statute. you haven t necessarily done something wrong but in the course of the investigation you lied deliberately and misled federal investigators. every time you do that it s an automatic five-year penalty. it has a lot of there is a lot of negative impact for the individual and that is supposed to be a way to encourage people to tell the truth when they are interviewed by federal investigators. sandra: if i could start with the first line item. i read the beginning of this court document saying that michael flynn did willfully and knowingly make materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statements. in the first line item it says flynn did not ask the government russian ambassador to refrain from escalating the situation in regard to sanctions the u.s. imposed against russia that day. flynn did not recall the ....
False, fictitious and fraudulent statements and representations within the matter of the jurisdiction of the government of the united states and falsely stated and represented to agents of the f.b.i. in washington, d.c. and it goes on to detail. what we know at this point, bill, is that michael flynn, 58 years old of alexandria, virginia, 10:30 a.m. due before the u.s. district judge rudolph contreras at the d.c. federal courthouse on third and constitution. that s what we know at this point. bill: december 29, 2016, a week prior, december 22, 2016, on that day the court document reads that general flynn did not ask the russian ambassador to delay the vote on or defeating a pending u.n. security council resolution and the russian ambassador subsequently never described to flynn russia s response to his request. what did he say about it? ....
Agents about the conversations and transactions and that s something we re going to have to see moving forward with other people that robert mueller may be talking to. maybe their lawyers should give them a little more advice about not giving false statements to f.b.i. agents. bill: flynn meets with the russian ambassador and has a conversation with him on 12-22 last year and another conversation on 12-29. on christmas day. we re going back over the timeline here, okay. on christmas day flynn claims the contact with the ambassador involved christmas wishes, condolences over a plane crash. but if the f.b.i. is paying attention to the conversations that he is having once he is outside the country, they have the goods on him. so when he gets ready for an interview a month later, they know exactly what they want to know. we don t know the content exactly of those conversations. we know what michael flynn said they were about. the problem that we had with ....
bill: judge, excellent work there. don t be far, okay? we ll rely on you an awful lot for this as we go forward. to our viewers at home if you are just joining us now, here is the headline. general michael flynn will plead guilty lying to the f.b.i. and will be in court in about 40 minutes. sandra: i want to be clear the white house has given sort of a response. that is they re referring all inquiries and reaction on flynn s news to the president s attorney, ty cobb. we at fox have reached out to cobb and we ll update you as we get a response there. so far nothing from the white house. unless you have anything, i want to bring our panel back in. based on what we are learning now, matt schlapp, i would like to know your thoughts as we continue to work our way he through the timeline here to update anybody just tuning in. the a.p. reporting general flynn is set to plead guilty to lying to the f.b.i. this after being charged in the ....
Recollection that would be of interest to them in their further prosecution. doesn t say prosecutions of whom and for what. after today that debriefing will not be with the general s lawyers but will be with the general himself. look, the government could come back tomorrow the government could come back in a couple of weeks and say this guy doesn t have anything. it was a fraud. we re withdrawing the charge of lying to the f.b.i. we re going whole hog against him or it could say general will be testifying before a grand jury and will be testifying about x, y and z. bill: that may take it to a new level. let s wait until that until we get there. i do want you to recall a few days and try to tie in the significance in a legal sense. december 22, 2016, december 29, 2016, apparently flynn had conversations with the russian ambassador. that s what the court order suggests. january 24th now you have new administration, michael flynn has an office in the west wing ....