you can t stand on the border with a smirk on your face, the border is closed, we have a plan. we re acting on the plan, make the ban be tear down barriers around the country. if you make it in, let them go. with what would happen if you did that in disneyland and a amusement park. rachel: i love that analogy. reporter: this is from griff jenkins, the mexican forces in guatemala, attempting to stop the caravan. they punch right through initially through the surge. you have upwards of 2,000 people who will probably take others along with, see the caravans grow as they move toward the border. when griff is also going to talk to migrant caravan leaders on his way. one of those leaders is i believe, how do you say it, rachel? rachel: hica. pete: better than i would. one of the leaders of the migrant caravan.