with us on this thursday morning. morning joe starts right now. as you know, i can t talk about the particulars of this or any other ongoing criminal matter. as i said when i pointed mr. smith, i did so because it underscores the justice department s commitment to both independence and accountability. mr. smith is a veteran career prosecutor. he has assembled a group of experienced and talented prosecutors and agents who share his commitment to integrity and the rule of law. any questions about this matter will have to be answered by their filings in court. attorney general merrick gar garland with brief words for the first time since donald trump s federal indictment. is it just me or, willie, are we starting to see again not a complete breaking of ice but sort of more thawing of ice, mike pence day one, this is horrible. day two, it s bad, but i m going to pardon him. day three, too early to talk about pardons. because you know, the news came out and i m sure mike p
with us on this thursday morning. morning joe starts right now. as you know, i can t talk about the particulars of this or any other ongoing criminal matter. as i said when i pointed mr. smith, i did so because it underscores the justice department s commitment to both independence and accountability. mr. smith is a veteran career prosecutor. he has assembled a group of experienced and talented prosecutors and agents who share his commitment to integrity and the rule of law. any questions about this matter will have to be answered by their filings in court. attorney general merrick gar garland with brief words for the first time since donald trump s federal indictment. is it just me or, willie, are we starting to see again not a complete breaking of ice but sort of more thawing of ice,
this took place in bedminster, donald trump s club there. mike pence yesterday said it s too early to prejudge. i m not talking about pardons, i m not talking about anything else. donald trump gets his day in court, and he went on to say just like joe biden s family maybe gets their day in court. in other words, don t prejudge things. we heard that from merrick garland. it s become so disoriented in the last eight years or so, this is what it s supposed to be like where the attorney general says this is not political. i appointed a special counsel. he s handling it. and by the way, rev, is that asking too much? is that asking too much to just say donald trump innocent until proven guilty. he ll get his day in court. let s hear what happens? joe, hunter biden, innocent until proven guilty. let s see what happens. let s let all this play out in court? absolutely. that s the correct way you would think that they would try and proceed, and given the gravity of the charges, if you re
it takes to win. democrats are still playing by an old set of rules that we re going to somehow keep the norms. republicans have abandoned those. democrats can act ethical and legal, but they need to give up on the old days that they can somehow do this and succeed. they need to absolutely go it alone when the american public wants action on all of these, especially voting rights. the norms are gone. you re absolutely right. the norms are gone. look at the example of what s happening with the debt ceiling. look how many times senator mcco mcconnell voted to raise the debt ceiling, now he s saying the debt ceiling will be raised but it s the democrats that will be doing it. he s introduced his own bill to fund the government, but not to raise it. he s also blasting biden s handling of the border hechlt cer. he certainly doesn t mind turning the screws. reflect back on merrick gar garland. they wouldn t allow dermerrick