regarding the grant termination. does that violate policy? it was inappropriate for him to go doing that for a grantee as a conflict of interest, among other things. on march 29, 2021, dr. morens edited a letter that dr. das yak was sending to nih. does that violate policy? yes. he provided him with advice regarding how to mislead nih on eco health s late progress report. does that violate policy? it was wrong and inappropriate and violated policy. on december 7th, 2021, dr. morens wrote to the chair of eco health s board of directors to quote put in a word, end quote, for the doctor. does that violate policy? should not have done that. that was wrong. it violates policy. i m not sure of a specific policy. i imagine it does. he should not have been doing that. in addition to all those actions dr. morens wrote to the doctor peter from tony s recent comments to me they are trying to protect you, end quote. did you ever talk to dr. morens about dr. daczak and e
anything else anybody else in china might be doing. we were talking about did the nih you were talking about what you funded, all right. that s the point. that goes to my next question. i thought you might go there and i appreciate that. in an off the record member level briefing in february of 2022 i asked about the likelihood of nature of a sars-related coronavirus to have a cleavage site since it takes the 12 nuclear chains in there to make it as viral as this was going on. at the time you said to me what you just said. well, that wasn t us. if that wasn t done it wasn t us and you confirmed that for the record. it wasn t what you were funding. what i m saying is i cannot account nor can anyone account for other things that might be going on in china, which is the reason why i have always said and will say now i keep an open mind as to what the origin is.