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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson 20191225 15:20:00

for sure, police were wondering about her husband. after all, conrad truman was in the house when heidy was shot, and there was no evidence of an intruder. i felt like they thought i did something. reporter: soon after he arrived at the scene, sergeant bill crook did begin to have his suspicions. we re telling him, conrad, back off. the paramedics are here. back off. and he wouldn t. reporter: he was what, moving around? yes. reporter: keeping paramedics from being at the body? yes, sir. reporter: there were other scenarios that needed to be explored, like accident and suicide. that s where detective tom wallace came in. there had been a number of theories. we obviously are going to exhaust them. that s going to happen. reporter: the medical examiner didn t make wallace s job any easier. his preliminary finding heidy s manner of death could not be determined. so wallace tackled each theory one by one. accident seemed hard to believe.

Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson 20191225 15:21:00

thanks to conrad, heidy had firearms experience. can you think of any way it could have been an accident? no. heidy wouldn t have been so careless. reporter: so what about suicide? she s completely naked. we don t see a lot of women that commit suicide naked. that s not common. reporter: did you find anybody that heidy had spoken to about suicide or about being depressed? no. reporter: neither heidy s mother janet nor her sister autumn could imagine heidy even thinking about taking her own life. heidy would never do that. in fact, heidy was against that. she had a friend who committed suicide, and she thought it was selfish and, in her words, dumb. reporter: heidy ever tell you she was depressed? no. reporter: ever act depressed? no. she was probably one of my happiest, most upbeat kids. reporter: that left wallace with homicide, and it put conrad back in the police crosshairs. wallace decided to speak to the officers first on the scene

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20191223 04:20:00

for sure, police were wondering about her husband. after all, conrad truman was in the house when heidy was shot, and there was no evidence of an intruder. i felt like they thought i did something. reporter: soon after he arrived at the scene, sergeant bill crook did begin to have his suspicions. we re telling him, conrad, back off. the paramedics are here. back off. and he wouldn t. reporter: he was, what, moving around? yes. reporter: keeping paramedics from being at the body? yes, sir. reporter: there were other scenarios that needed to be explored, like accident and suicide. that s where then-detective tom wallace came in. there had been a number of theories. we obviously are going to exhaust them. that s going to happen. reporter: the medical examiner didn t make wallace s job any easier. his preliminary finding heidy s manner of death could not be determined. so wallace tackled each theory one by one.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20191223 04:21:00

accident seemed hard to believe. thanks to conrad, heidy had firearms experience. can you think of any way it could have been an accident? no. heidy wouldn t have been so careless. reporter: so what about suicide? she s completely naked. we don t see a lot of women that commit suicide naked. that s not common. reporter: did you find anybody that heidy had spoken to about suicide or about being depressed? no. reporter: neither heidy s mother janet nor her sister autumn could imagine heidy even thinking about taking her own life. heidy would never do that. in fact, heidy was against that. she had a friend who committed suicide, and she thought it was selfish and, in her words, dumb. reporter: heidy ever tell you she was depressed? no. reporter: ever act depressed? no. she was probably one of my happiest, most upbeat kids. reporter: that left wallace with homicide, and it put conrad back in the police crosshairs. wallace decided to speak to the officers first on th

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20191207 10:21:00

after all, conrad truman was in the house when heidy was shot, and there was no evidence of an intruder. i felt like they thought i did something. reporter: soon after he arrived at the scene, sergeant bill crook did begin to have his suspicions. we re telling him, conrad, back off. the paramedics are here. back off. and he wouldn t. reporter: he was what, moving around? yes. reporter: keeping paramedics from being at the body? yes, sir. reporter: there were other scenarios that needed to be explored, like accident and suicide. that s where detective tom wallace came in. there had been a number of theories. we obviously are going to exhaust them. that s going to happen. reporter: the medical examiner didn t make wallace s job any easier. his preliminary finding heidy s manner of death could not be determined. so wallace tackled each theory one by one. accident seemed hard to believe. thanks to conrad, heidy had firearms experience.

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