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figliuzzi, former assistant director of counterintelligence for the fbi. frank, let me start with you. what do you think is the significance and import in a tangible, concrete way about the designation of terrorism to the act committed in el paso and why is that a good idea? well, i m not necessarily advocating that it s a good idea, but i am applauding the fact that we are finally at least labeling something because it s an ideology that leads to violence. so terrorism is all about ideology as a motivation. and finally, we have a recognition that this individual and others like him, are motivated by ideology, not simply by wanting to kill somebody for the sake of killing somebody. and i think it s a healthy discussion that we need to have as a nation. because we re getting to the heart of free speech and privacy. there s a reason why we don t treat domestic terrorism like international terrorism. and we need to get this figured out. so if you told your local chief
whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that s why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management. for years, as white supremacists political violence has increased, people have called for this to be called terrorism. but is terrorism the conceptual, legal, and institutional framework that we want to expand and utilize? hasn t the use of the term often led to abuses and is giving this government, this administration more, quote, tools of that kind going to result in the outcomes the country wants? for more on this inherent tension, i m joined by medi hassan, columnist of the intercept, host of the deconstructed podcast, and frank
let s discuss. karen finney s here, scott jennings, medi hassan. good evening, one and all. medi, i m going to start with you. the chief of staff forced to defend the president after critics called him out on his rhetoric in the aftermath of two shootings at mosques. the president is not a white supremacist. i don t know how many times we have to say that. to simply ask the question every time this happens overseas or say domestically, oh, my goodness, it must somehow be the president s fault speaks to a politicization that is undermining the institutions we have in the country today. how many times do i have to say this, do we have to say this? it can t be good, seriously, when you re trying to convince the world that the president is not a white supremacist. i know you disagree with him on this. i do disgray. it s a pretty big thing to say. on the other hand, they also
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