Have made, and that is that if they can t join nato, can there be a mechanism set up by which their territorial integrity is protected, and that others will come to their defense if russia tries this nonsense again? what do you think about the likelihood of a suggestion like that working? well, that is the essence of nato, right? nato is a mutual defense treaty, in which we pledge, to those who are part of that alliance, that all the members will come to their defense if they are attacked. so it sounds as if ukraine is asking to have the rights the nato members enjoy, while not being a member of nato. that s, obviously something the united states and our allies can discuss. but, that s a fairly serious commitment to make, to have the united states guarantee the protection of ukraine, outside
Senator chris murphy, is a member of the foreign relations committee. as i mentioned a moment ago, we have not got confirmation on this, but we are seeing reports from other reporters, and other agencies in kyiv, that say there are some loud explosions tonight with, the context of that is that there has been discussions in istanbul about pulling back, about the russians pulling back from kyiv in favor of just sort of taking eastern ukraine, that they are looking for. i think we might have senator murphy back. senator, are you back with us? i got you know. excellent, you re a tv pro, because even you knew we were having technical difficulties, when you can hear me. when asked about the proposal that some of the ukrainians have made, and that is that if they can t join nato, can there be a mechanism set up by which their territorial integrity is protected, and that others will come to their defense if russia tries this nonsense again?
With an actual death, but somehow incapacitated a president and put him in a coma? he was brain damaged in some way, the idea was to have some mechanism set up, but you can tell, brooke, from that history that it involves someone who a president who wasn t going to be fighting this, who somehow wasn t going to be able to be engaged because it requires either a madjority of the cabint or the vice president to first send word to house and senate leaders that the president is unable to perform his duties, and again, it speaks more generally to get to your original question, but then if the president fights that as, let s just say that happened which again is very unlikely because it would have to be a majority of the cabinet or the vice president who now is mike pence. right. say it did go to the house and senate, the president could say, wait a minute. i m okay here. don t do this, and then it would fall to the house and the senate