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a series of defensive lines to prevent the russians coming in. the key issue is can they hold their lines against not just the russians but the belarusians, if they come as may be anticipated by certainly western analysts and here in ukraine. military people really concerned if belarus joins the war, that may tim the balance of numbers and fire power and make kyiv vulnerable once again, pam. all right. we ll continue to look at that question. a new estimate about russian losses may help explain how ukrainians have been able to make these advances near kyiv. reporter: so these russian losses figures have come from nato officials. they are reflecting basically on the ukrainian claims of having killed some 14,000 to 15,000. that s the top end of the nato estimate. the lower end is about 7,000. and then there is a formula where you multiple by two or

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