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U.s. officials viewed russia as a state of let s go now to ukraine and cnn s david mckenzie live in odessa. how are ukrainian leaders reacting to this meeting? reporter: jake, they ve been careful not to directly criticize china. a foreign ministry spokesman saying they hoped china would use their relationship and power over russia and try to push this in a way that makes sense for ukraine. of course, as mathew touched on, no negotiations will happen from a ukrainian perspective unless vladimir putin withdraws his troops from ukrainian land. the peace plan china has put on the table is kind of dead on arrival as it sits. and whether there will be a call between zelenskyy and xi jinping, they were always going to talk to putin first. i think officials hope that will ....
Convenience, not necessarily affection. the big question is whether the chinese are still pushing the idea of providing lethal assistance. this is how kirby framed things today. we still don t believe china has taken it off the table, we haven t seen any indication that they re moving in that direction or they ve made a decision or are going to do that. we continue to believe it s not in china s best interest to do that, to help putin slaughter innocent ukrainians. reporter: jake, one of the big questions is what will come from a tangible policy basis. u.s. officials don t really have a great idea. as mathew noted, they re also urging the chinese to reach out and range a call between president xi and president zelenskyy, something that hasn t happened yet. they re saying that needs to happen in order for xi to play any type of peacemaker role, if you will. when i asked john kirby whether ....