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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:05:00

With judge jones asking that one seemingly simple question. that is, if one of the things that mark meadows is accused of, just one piece of what he s accused of, if one of those was done under the so-called color of his job, does that mean the mark meadows case must be removed to federal court? what is your answer, if you have one it looks like it requires some study to get a real answer to that. what is your answer as of tonight to that question? so, lawrence, the only definitive answer is we don t know. here is why i say that. the judge would not have posed the question if there was controlling authority. in other words, if there was an appellate court that had wrestled with this previously, had authored an opinion because then the judge wouldn t have to

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 02:16:00

Meadows claim. he really is somebody who s seen to have so far exceeded the scope of his official duties by corrupting and weaponizing the department of justice, and interfering in a state election. you know, once we get a decision in the mark meadows case, then you are going to see other defendants lineup to try and take their shot. amy lee copeland, i had my doubts about anyone who wasn t a federal employee being covered by this removal statute until i read it today. what it refers to, any officer, any officer of the united states, any officer, in parentheses, or any person acting under that officer, and we already have these fake electors saying, i was acting under donald trump, people in this case who have no federal employment affiliation who were saying they were acting under the direction of federal officers.

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20240604 05:16:00

If mark meadows gets moved to federal court, who else does? i think, potentially, other federal officers may go. i don t think the alternate electors will go because they re not federal officers. i don t think donald trump s lawyers will go because they may make an argument that they were working for a federal officer. it doesn t magically convert them into federal officers. so, it could be jeffrey clark, for example, because he was a doj official, maxima federal officer. i think his claim is probably far less robust than mark meadows claim. he really is somebody who s seen to have so far exceeded the scope of his official duties by corrupting and weaponizing the department of justice, and interfering in a state election. you know, once we get a decision in the mark meadows

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Primetime 20240604 02:01:00

Apologized for over a false story. and even max kennedy will respond to vikram of who called him the grand wizard of the modern. but first, mark meadows, he took a big risk today by taking the stand. charged in efforts to overturn election results in georgia. and now he is arguing that his case should go over to federal court instead. today, there was a mini trial of sorts. one that s many legal experts have said may have put him in deeper trouble. cnn s jessica schneider is here to tell us what happened in that hearing today, jessica? abby, we are now waiting for the federal judge in georgia to decide of mark meadows case can be moved to federal court. meadows testified for several hours today, he tried to make the case that everything that he did was within his official duties as chief of staff for trump. he talks about that infamous phone call to georgia secretary of state where trump of course asked raffensperger to find him

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Primetime 20240604 06:01:00

Guard who chased down the shooter. plus the family of the fallen soldier whose fox news just apologized to over fall story. and a brim x candy will respond to vivek ramaswamy who called him the grand wizard of the modern. but first, mark meadows, he took a big risk today by taking the stand. thump trump s chief of staff overturn election results in georgia and he s arguing that his case should go over to federal thornton s former chief of now, he s arguing that his case should go over to federal court instead. today, there was a mini trial of sorts. one that many legal experts have said may have put him in deeper trouble. cnn s jessica schneider is here to tell us what s happened in that hearing today. jessica. abby, we are now waiting for the federal judge in georgia to decide if mark meadows case can be moved to federal court. meadows testified for several hours today. he tried to make the case that everything he did was within his official duties as chief of

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