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Both screens? it s true it s what we re looking at, and it feels kind of hellish. certainly it s fascinating, but you re right it s unprecedented. i don t know if i would even use the modifier kind of. just hellish. barbara mcquade and mark liebovich, thank you for your time tonight. we have much more still ahead including new threats against the jurors who recommended donald trump s fourth indictment and what fulton county is doing to protect those citizens, but first the republican response to their front-runner s 91 felony charges. just take it to the ballot box. that s the response. and that s next. stay with us. next. stay with us ....
Bio, talk about me and avoid engaging trump or hit back because lord knows donald trump is going to be swinging and swinging fiercely. yeah, mark, in the time those 21 minutes of technical glitches we were treated to that, the trump campaign literally cut an ad juxtaposing trump s campaign launch with the ron desantis campaign launch. they are going to be vicious. and the desantis people seem so intent on not saying bad about donald trump, the opposite is not true. from the jump trump is trying to position desantis as arrogant and ungrateful for all the things i put in quotes that trump has done for desantis, and you ve got to wonder whether that s going to be a resident message when it comes to the republican base. yeah, i would agree i actually think it could be. it s something one could understand. desantis very blatantly decided to piggy bank on trump and sort ....
Person who can make america great again. what a night. we have so very much to talk about. joining me now are jonathan martin, the politics bureau chief at politico, and mark liebovich. first your reaction to the 21 minutes of technical glitches the audience was treated to as part of the desantis launch. i thought it was a great and unifying evening for america. i think, first of all, it s very rare that you you see donald trump, fox news, so many democrats, i m guessing so many people who know ron desantis and suspected that maybe he wasn t ready for prime time are ....
Multiple times on the same door for ron desantis? do you sense a ground swell of grassroots enthusiasm for ron desantis, mark? no, i don t. and certainly tonight is not going to help, but yoodo think clearly,a hunger, there s an appetite in the republican party for some alternative to donald trump. ron desantis had this sort of positioning for the last few months that, you know, he was looked to as someone who could be that person people could rally around. now he has to do something he s extremely unproven on, which is go out in public. this decision goes to a small universe he s appealing to, which is the base, which is people who get involved in caucuses and organizing and primary states, and look, he could go really heavy at the event and could do the same in south carolina in some of the early states. at some point you have to excite some people. ....
They re not so sure. joining me now is the atlantic staff righter and msnbc political contributor mark liebowitz, his latest is mark liebovich. wait until you get to know mark desantis. this is filled with colorful language and descriptions of ron desantis and his personality. what s the deal, why is there a disconnect between those who have not met him and those who have? well, i think what you is see very often in politics, especially when you have kind of this 800 pound gorilla candidate that everyone is kind of looking to is the reality doesn t match necessarily the hype around him, and desantis is kind of a classic example of someone who, you know, now has a bunch of glitter around him, i think a lot of republican donors are very excited about him, and sort of someone who can rescue the party from trump, but ultimately, they have to come out and play some time, and they don t always wear it as as well ....