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Was a part of they had 140,000 troops in saudi arabia, a bunch of cavalry regiments and some artillery, the crew commander put those troops in all their vehicles in an attack formation and reversed the attack into iraq. we have not seen that with the russian forces. and truthfully they have not maneuvered as a large scale force. now, that s not saying as steve just said, that s not saying they can t do it. but i ve got to tell you, if they do attack writ large with 100,000 plus troops into ukraine, a large country with 40 million people, it s going to be ugly not for the ukrainians although certainly it would be for them, too, but for the russians. they will be dysfunctional and a disaster. general mark hurt llg, steve hall, thank you both for being with us tonight. we re going to have a live report from moskow later in the hour. next, though, looking at a live shot between the bridge between detroit and windsor, ....