put on trial, three juries have found them guilty, and they were not antifa, they were trump supporters who believed donald trump s lie. there s a direct line between the lies they were told by donald trump and the conduct they engaged in on january 6th. what s striking to me, nicolle, is that there s always been a lunatic fringe in the republican party, but it used to be folks like the john birch society in the 1960s. this is the same mind-set with the marjorie taylor greene and gohmerts and all the rest. they are almost literally out of their minds. the stuff they believe is illogical, dangerous, it s crazy. the fringe in the republican party is people like liz cheney or adam kinzinger saying we need to uphold the constitution and respect the sanctity of elections and defend our democracy. that s the outlying view in the republican party today. the mainstream is the people who say that the election was stolen from donald trump. that is in fact, a litmus test for being a republican
front, germany announcing it would send up to 50 antiaircraft vehicles directly to ukraine. it seems like a major shift in its weapons policy after weeks of pressure to do more and to do more quickly. joining us now former u.s. ambassador to ukraine william taylor, now vice president for russia and europe at the u.s. institute of peace, and retired four-star general barry mccaffrey, a former member of the national security council now lucky for us an msnbc military analyst, and you have the tweet of the day on this nuclear question, but i just want to back up a minute because i haven t had a chance to speak to either of you since what feels like an historic visit by two of the most senior u.s. government officials, secretary austin and secretary blinken and secretary austin has sort of grabbed the mic in a way i haven t seen him do yet on the world stage as our country s top defense official. and i just wonder from your view, first ambassador taylor and then yours general mccaffrey, wh
million bucks off it. so this behavior is actually rewarded in a sick and perverse way. so, what is he going to do? what does mccarthy and i m not defending him by any stretch, but we ve seen examples here. he, you know, marjorie taylor greene was kicked off committees, not by mccarthy, but what did that do? it only emboldened her and caused her to do this more. so i think the congressional leadership, by the way, on both sides of the aisle, have trouble figuring out how to rein in their members because the incentive structure is so perverse and so sick. but yes, this is unrecognizable from what we hear publicly and that story in the new york times, by the way, i just read it during the break, after j. mark texted it to me to make sure i could see it, but suggested also that steve scalise, who, by the way, stayed out of the fray here, very interesting, very important to note, steve scalise also said that some of this talk might actually be illegal. it might be so dangerous that it
panel. everyone has mentioned these new texts. we had some more time to go through them overnight. this is marjorie taylor greene on january 6th. she writes this to mark meadows. mark, we don t think these attackers are our people. we think they are antifa dressed like trump supporters. on january 7th. i m sorry nothing worked. i don t think trump caused the attack on the capitol. it s not his fault. antifa was mixed in the crowd and instigated it, and when people try everything and no one listens and nothing works, i guess they think they have no other choice. absolutely no excuse. i denounce all of it. after shutdown asks a stolen election, people are saying they have no other choice. gohmert, capitol police told me they d been warned and today there would be a lot of antifa dressed in red shirts and hats and they get violent. these are just regular tourists. he says this on january 9th. i d like to pass to potus we are still with him, i believe in him, and i want to encourage him. n
stable. it was deterrence. they were never used. there was never a shot fired in europe. now we ve got a lot less nuclear weapons in a lot more hands, and it s getting unstable. so to have foreign minister laz rof and putin maing these outrageous, irresponsible threats with nuclear weapons, it s hard to fathom. either putin s starting to unravel, some of that s true, a lot of it s undoubtedly a complete bluff, but it s horrendously unsettling. i mean, russia would vaporize after three days of a nuclear exchange. they know that, so what are they doing? it s just entirely illogical and unsettling to the global community. and unsettling ambassador taylor to no one more than the ukrainians. i mean, i ve heard public and private real despair and concern