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Crosstalk. so, again just to be clear do you see your sister, marielle, as one of the victims of genocide? exactly. perfectly. that s the perfect point that you just brought. marielle was a victim but inside politicians. marielle was a councilwoman who got killed with five shots on her head, 13 on her body, and she was also a victim of the genocide in this country. crosstalk. but i m just wondering, minister, how you can, in a way, how you can sit comfortably in a ministerial office in brasilia when you re saying that you believe the state is still complicit in an unfolding genocide against black brazilians. i mean, for example just to take one example marielle was killed five years ago. there are two former police officers who have been charged in association with her murder. they deny involvement. they ve yet to come to trial. and it sounds to me as though ....
And i hope not to be the next marielle because i hope that our democracy still continues to grow strong. and i also hope that the people and the politicians that inspire people to think that it s ok to kill a black woman or to kill black people don t win any other election in this country any more. and that s why we re working for it. that s why it s so beautiful and strong what we re doing, because we have transparency. we have, you know, the rights. and we are definitely working to the poor people, you know, to the people who need the most in this country. and even though we understand the polarisation right now, but the other side, we understand that we need to avoid and to stop racists in this country. and president lula and our government are doing so far a great work. and hopefully i m going to end my mandate in four years and we are going to be doing a lot ....
Who didn t have opportunity to do a lot of in life because of racism. given the. it all comes to opportunity and to racism. just finally, it is possible it s going to be a very dangerous place for you to be in the next few years, in the heart of politics. i lljust remind you that after your sister was killed, you said that, if i have to be the next marielle to die, i will be. but you said, i am. ..determined to continue her work. do you still. obviously you still feel that today, but you still feel the threat? i think that in any place in brazil, we are threatened. there is no place safe here, you know, when you decide to fight for human rights. i think that the thing that make us wake up every day is to fight for our rights and to understand the importance of our black community, our democracy, our human rights defenders. ....
They were not working for the police any more but they were former officers and they were the people who executed marielle because someone asked them to do so. and she was a politician. right, well. crosstalk. and every black people. we need to be a little bit careful, as the trial hasn t yet happened. we should say that they remain suspects who are facing trial, rather than. exactly, they remain suspects. butjust to conclude i think that every black person is suspect in brazil. every black person that does not know what to do in case of violence can die. i mean, i can, the people that work with me can. the thing is that we need to talk to the police, we need to talk to the governors, we need to think about programmes, we need to think about public policies and to stop the genocide of the black people that is constantly happening here, in many parts of the country. in brief, how do you prioritise in your work? you re minister of racial equality. we ve discussed at some length ....
Is to fight for our rights and to understand the importance of our black community, our democracy, our human rights defenders. and i hope not to be the next marielle because i hope that our democracy still continues to grow strong. and i also hope that the people and the politicians that inspire people to think that it s ok to kill a black woman or to kill black people don t win any other election in this country any more. and that s why we re working for it. that s why it s so beautiful and strong what we re doing, because we have transparency. we have, you know, the rights. and we are definitely working to the poor people, you know, to the people who need the most in this country. and even though we understand the polarisation right now, but the other side, we understand that we need to avoid and to stop racists in this country. ....