it s very difficult. it s very hard to say. you have to whole pardon question. the manafort question. it can only go downhill from here and the longer he waits, the worse it s going to be. martin london, thank you so much. your experience and insight is much valued here. appreciate your time. still ahead for all of you on a.m. joy, chris matthews and andrea mitchell share their thoughts on the passing of john mccain. cancer . it s very personal.
be included in the manafort question. all of this relates to money laundering, bank fraud, tax crimes that he was committing from 2005 to 2017, according to his indictments. he s also under investigation for collusion. we know that from rod rosenstein s letter, and that investigation continues. and that s something that has to be considered as we consider what paul manafort is going to do here. it may not make any sense for him to plead guilty now to these charges if he s going to be charged with more crimes. manafort is sitting in a jail cell for the next few terms. what does it do? it makes life very difficult, and it really puts the pressure on a client if they re sitting in pretrial detention and not out where they can assist their lawyer better. otherwise the lawyer has to get in a car or take the train to the detention center, wait in line, and that s the only time they get to talk to their client except maybe phone calls. life gets harder when you re in
now all this stuff is coming out. so anyhow, we have reporters who helped break that story. we have nbc news national political reporter heidi przybilla. politics editor for the daily beast, sam stein. pulitzer prize-winning national political reporter for nbc news, carol lee, who is the lead reporter on the nbc news report on general kelly and new york times reporter michael schmidt has the reporting on mueller s list of questions for the president. i want to ask willie a question. willie, mike smith, hall of famer, philadelphia fillies, can we put our own new york times schmidty in. he s got to be retired for five years. i don t want to jump to that conclusion. but a lot of people are saying he would be on the first ballot. hey, by the way, so rex calls the president a moron.
why did it take them so long to deal with the issue of flynn and why was flynn ultimately fired? now you have to remember on flynn, flynn is cooperating. and there was a question in there which we found particularly interesting. about the pardons, what did the president know about efforts to reach out to flynn about pardons? the interesting thing is that this was, this document was created in march. and it was only in april that we wrote a story about how pardons had been made from john doud on an offer to flynn s side. so mueller clearly knew something about the issue of pardons before that story came out, just another great reminder, that there s so much more that mueller knows that we don t. speaking of so much more. we have so much more ahead. we ve got carol lee, with the story that she broke exclusive nbc reporting on john kelly s repeated takedown of his boss, calling the president an idiot.
for one witness. happens to be an important one. again, they re not just 15 questions, they are areas of inquiry so you ask a question, get the response and these are the 15 areas where it can move. and questions i want to ask you about, the bank robbery, and once we start talking about it i have 300 questions about the bank robbery, so it s good reporting, interesting, an insight into the investigation but it s just a list of topics. so collusion, donald trump saying that there aren t any questions about collusion here and he s cleared. isn t that an a part of this case that robert mueller is not going to be able to pursue to its end, proper end, until we know what happens with a key central player in that area and