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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 01:21:00

Give forensic investigators the time they need to attribute these attacks. but when we have seen this level of highly customized malware before, on an industrial control network, critical infrastructure network. it has always generally been russia. an attack that comes to mind is on petro saudi petrochemical facility a couple years ago. where hackers using customize the spoke code that never had been seen before, use that code to do something very serious which was neutralize the safety locks at this petrochemical plant. basically, the very last thing that can stave off an explosion. and it took a long time for and others to tribute that attack back to a gradual research university near moscow that was essentially an arm of the kremlin. and so, when you see this kind of highly customize mel where. you always have to stop and let

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 04:20:00

Alert from these agencies that names russia, correct? why would that be and why do you think it might be safe to assume that that is who they re talking about? there is a lot going on right now. so in ukraine, it appears to be the gru. this is the russian military attackers that have taken down the ukrainian grid twice before. have shown up here. in probes, let s call them, of our power system in the past. what was reported today in this department of energy, and a say advisory. basically said, something very similar to what is happening in ukraine is happening here. but that the tools are highly customized. which make it much harder to attribute. so no one is coming out and saying, this is russia, this is the gru, we re still in very early days here. and it s really important to give forensic investigators the time they need to attribute these attacks. but when we have seen this level of highly customized malware before, on an industrial control network, critical infrastructure netw

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20240604 08:21:00

Attribute. so no one is coming out and saying this is russia, this is the gru, we are in still very early days here and it is really important to give investigators the time they need to attribute these attacks but when we have seen this level of highly customized malware before, on an industrial-controlled network, a critical infrastructure network, it is always generally been russia. the attack that comes to mind was on petro chemical facility, a couple of years ago, where hackers using customized bespoke code that had never been seen before, used that code to do something very serious, which was neutralize the safety locks at this petrochemical plant, basically the very last thing that can stave off an explosion. and it took a long time for others to attribute that attack

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