i would go farther. if you think about the content of u.s./russian relations today with the possible exception of ukraine, what about ukraine, we didn t annex territory there and support separatists. that is what russia did. the meddling in the election. did we meddle in their elections? no, that was created by putin. who was the leader that backed assad? that was putin. it s his agenda, he created that agenda. so for us to just say well, let s move forward because, why? we want to cooperate on what? i think that is not smart diplomacy. malcolm, we use intelligence-gathering to get proof and evidence. weirdly, vladimir putin through lavrov has said if you think we meddled in the election, provide us with the proof. that is not how the intelligence-gathering works. this is brilliant. people have said that putin was a mid-level human intelligence
wikileaks tried to steal the 2016 election. malcolm, that is a definitive title to a book that lets me believe you think that the russian government was involved in hacking the u.s. election. you re a former intelligence officer. once again, president trump took aim at the american intelligence community, undercutting them and suggesting that not everybody is on board with this idea that the russians hacked the election, and even if they are you can t trust the intelligence community. i guess my question to you is, how does this affect the rank and file in the intelligence community that is compiled of several different agencies? it doesn t, it doesn t affect them because these are men and women that come in every day. in the cia passed the wall of honor, they go about doing their job keeping this nation safe. and that is what they re going to do. now, in the watch offices and places like this who watch programs like this, when they hear statements like this, you literally will hear
he fired the investigator investigating him and said he did so because of the investigation. that s enough to impeach the president for obstruction of justice. thank you, congressman. let s bring in your reporter for the new york times, and an msnbc contributor. this week ahead we re going to hear testimony thursday from james comey who the congressman referred to president trump terminated. we re going to have other things that will inevitably point back to what is facing the president. but he s going on the road. he s going to ohio. he s talking about doing other things. is this part of the trump strategy to try to divert attention away from comey and other issues that are coming up this week? will he be able to get the media to go some other way?
to communicate back channels, publicly with other countries. i don t see any big issue here relative to jared. all right. these revelations are a point concern for senator john mccain, however, who spoke to australian media this morning. i know that some administration officials are saying, well, that s standard procedure. i don t think it s standard procedure prior to the inauguration of a president of the united states by someone who is not in an appointed position. joining me to discuss this with more malcolm nantz, the author of wikileaks tried to steal the 2016 election. also msnbc s terrorism analyst. a political reporter for bloomberg. matt welch is here with me in studio, an editor-at-large at reason magazine. john kelly s pushback on criticism is often the same. it s no big deal.
doesn t reaffirm his support for collective self-defense which our allies were hoping he would do and then shows up at the g-7 and does not sign on to a statement on climate change and just recall for a second the reason the g-7 is a g-7 is russia was thrown out of the g-8 in part because it was at odds with ukraine. when president trump shows up with the two paramount institutions and creates a degree of division we want to show unity and look at the backdrop in our country of all sorts of swirling allegations and charges about back channels, you have to believe they are seeing the political context of the united states. gentlemen, good to talk to you. steve clemons, washington editor at large of the atlantic, john finer, chief of staff to secretary of state john kerry, and gordon chang, daily beast columnist and author. enjoy your memorial day. breaking news from florida where tiger woods was arrested early this morning. plus, a russian in paris. emmanuel macron. the visit coming