12 new yorkers have affirmed the principle that no one in america, not even a former president, is above the law. a jury unanimously found donald trump guilty on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. the criminal case hinged on the testimony and evidence of the trials narrator, trumps fixer turned foe, michael cohen. he joins us here now. he is the author of disloyal, the true story of a former personal attorney to president donald j trump and how trump weaponized the u.s. department of justice against his critics. is also the host of the mea pope and political podcast. i am so busy. i want to get some context here. when this all began for you in many respects, at that time trump is in the white house, you had gotten caught up in this thing on your way to prison , how, having this, full-circle and watching what occurred this week, do you appreciate that role? that narration? i thought it was very interesting and important for you to frame this chapter in this c
the only one, stormy daniels has, e. jean carroll has, we are talking about in this specific narrative, i am certainly front and center. his feeling is not only do i need to knock michael down, i also need to set an example for others that you do not want to be michael cohen, you do not want to take the blows that i and members of congress that are supporting this are going to be coming at you. this is a mafia message. what is the difference between you and weisselberg? weisselberg is like, don t know not staying. weisselberg is still in the camp and still in the cold and he will not testify against donald trump. he has the right not to testify to plead the fifth. that is what he did. as a direct result he is spending more time at rikers island.
effective cap net member in moving forward. and then because he recused himself by trying to do the right thing trump gets rid of him. what are republicans going to sit back? what he did to the house republicans, it just seemed he clearly was trying to send is a mafia message to the rest of the republican party. it was something else. how does that get received by some republicans? i would note first that you shouldn t rule out the possibility that the president is incapable of understanding that there are places in that country where being tied to him is a liability. every previous president has understood that. barack obama understood that. i m not sure that donald trump with his intense narcissism and his need to personalize everything really gets that. so he may genuinely think