their questions after invoking his fifth amendment rights against self-incrimination. and we saw the biggest sentence handed out to a january 6th rioter so far. this guy, robert palmer, getting sentenced to 63 months in prison for repeatedly assaulting police officers at the capitol. so, so, so much to talk about. to help make sense of it all is josh gerstein, senior legal affairs write for politico. luke broadweighter, a congressional reporter for the new york times. and katie benner, a new york times reporter and msnbc contributor. how close are we to figuring out the lead-up to january 6th and how to prevent it from happening going forward? well, i think there s been considerable progress on the second half of that question, yasmin, in terms of what can be done sort of at a tactical level at the capitol to prevent this