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The content had been put out there was some criticism of the bbc, you know, for actually sitting down and recording an interview with this particular person. and certainly, some of the criticism came from the belarusian opposition. but once our interview aired, the 24 minute version and now a 33 minute version, most of that criticism has gone and the interview has been, i think, pretty much welcomed and well received. has it been watched in belarus? can people see it? interesting question, because in belarus, you can they can see it on youtube, that is not blocked but belarusian state television has put out a completely different version. have they? ..of our interview. what they did, very cunning, they divided the interview into sections, so the migration crisis, relations with the eu, political situation in belarus, and they edited together my questions, like one long question, and then they had lots of lukashenko, basically ....
Upset by the way things have gone, you asked for this interview. he seems to have think it gone well for him, which is quite interesting, and off he walked. fascinating. steve, thank you very much for sharing the story behind the interview. we appreciate it. steve rosenberg joining us live from moscow. you can find the full interview both on iplayer and also on youtube. now, evidently, steve s interview has very much cut through, though the degree to which it will impact on belarusian politics we will see because of the way lukashenko runs the country. but if we turn our attention to stories in the uk, let s consider how and why some of those stories have a lot more impact than others, and we very much had a case study this week, the speech at the cbi, i m sure most of you listening heard it in some form. the prime minister lost his place for over 20 seconds, compared himself to moses at one point and also said this. yesterday, i went, as we all must, to peppa pig world, ....
Form for you , and a familiar form, and he used the familiar form which i took as an insult, basically. so he was clearly trying to get one up on me, i think, pretty early on. before we talk about it any further, steve, let s hear some of the interview. translation: you told the eu that belarus had been stopping migrants but that now, they would have to catch them themselves. the migrants took that to mean belarus is open to then. translation: i told the eu i m not going to detain migrants - on the border, hold them - at the border, and if they keep coming from now on, i i still won t stop them. because they are not i coming to my country, they are going to yours. the west stopped talking to us and working with us, if you don t want to, - then fine, we will sort this problem out ourselves as best we can. - so that is some of steve rosenberg s interview with president lukashenko and i have to say, steve, as i was watching it, my mouth was hanging open on occasions because i couldn ....
To you as the west it was almost like he saw you as a representative of not just the uk, but of all western countries. yeah, i became the personification of the west in his eyes. i was the one who is funding the anti government protests last year. i was the one, sitting in this chair, who was attacking belarus. i tried to stay as calm as possible while, you know, opposite me, this leader was getting more and more angry and it was difficult, obviously, because russian is not my native tongue, but i did as best i could. well, i think you equipped yourself very well on that front. i wonder if you had any journalistic doubts or whether people who are opponents of president lukashenko in belarus had doubts about the merits of giving him bbc news airtime. yeah, certainly, i did have doubts and certainly, when the news came out on friday that the bbc had recorded an interview with alexander lukashenko before the actual interview, ....
He used the west as an excuse. and i noticed he also referred to you as the west, it was almost like he saw you as a representative of notjust the uk, but of all western countries. yeah, i became the personification of the west in his eyes. i was the one who is funding the antigovernment protests last year, i was the one sitting in this chair who was attacking belarus. i tried to stay as calm as possible while, you know, opposite me, this leader was getting more and more angry. and it was difficult, obviously, because russian is not my native tongue, but i did as best i could. i think you equipped yourself very well on that front. i wonder if you had any journalistic doubts or whether people who are opponents of president lukashenko in belarus had doubts about the merits of giving him bbc news airtime. yeah, certainly i did have doubts, and certainly when the news came out on friday that the bbc had ....