going to do much, other than kind of give you diminishing returns. you might stave off an inevitable infection for some time, but i don t think chasing mild illness with boosters makes sense. i think we really want to focus on severe disease. there may be a case for fourth doses in immunocompromised people who don t respond well to the vaccine. but for the general population, i think we kind of have to move beyond these first-generation vaccines if we re going to look for more protection that we re getting. and i think the protection we re getting is sufficient against what matters. let me play a little devil s advocate here and say, what if this isn t just about preventing people from being hospitalized or even death? there s a new washington post article, for example, detailing another study into the prevalence of people having strange heart issues several months after recovering from covid. and the president of the american heart association says, in fact, they re expecting a ti
to the pandemic in general. i feel there s a lack of willingness sometimes to say we don t know because people don t like to hear that and i understand that fact. people want facts from their leaders, from their news organizations, they want concrete things that are tangible, like things, ideas they can connect to, not to hear we don t know even though in this case it really is the case and i think news outlets and other media companies should lean out to and push that we don t know a lot about the omicron variant yet. yes, certainly health experts and officials are doing a better job saying we re going to need two to three weeks for clarity on some of the critical questions. dr. gupta i want to bring you to this part of the conversation about messaging and indulge me for a moment because i want to play a little devil s advocate, listen to this clip from francis collins director of national institute of health responding to a question if there should be more restrictions on domesti
publicly united, of course we know behind closed doors just a week ago, nancy pelosi and these four women were arguing over their progressive policies. and so they see them as less united as a party that could splinter if he keeps driving the wedge. yeah. let s, though, play a little devil s advocate here. the idea that this strategy works. set aside what s right, okay, and what the president believes works. he tried a natureivist, carrying a bull horn into the midterms and postmortem it showed that hurt republican candidates in those swing states. is it clear that this is politically positive for the president? i just remember talking to a lot of republican strategists in the final weeks of the 2018 midterms and they told me that every time the president talked about the caravan, you look at
that. joining me now, mark thompson, radio post. derrick johnson is president and ceo of the naacp. let me play a little devil s advocate based on what we just heard out of virginia. a man should be judged by who he is today, derrick. you heard that young african-american man saying, you know, i m not sure we should be throwing people away over a photo that was taken 35 years ago. if you were in that room right now as governor northam is, listening to people for their advice, what would you say to him? well, you know, unfortunately, he may be surrounded with the reality of the culture of the old south. it is ae duality of the sympathizers ar sympathizers, along with those who want to grow out of the reality. 1984, 20 years after the passage of the civil rights act, 19
we ll cut a deal. with this guy part of what s going on, a, will we ever know what he said? no. b, if we get a glimmer of what he says, can we be confident that the kremlin won t come out and say, actually, nothing came out of that meeting. the question is, what the heck did they talk about and we don t know. jeffrey toobin, i want to play a little devil s advocate on this. i was covering that news conference in seoul where president said to medved and they still had a pretty substantive exchange. how is that so different from what we see at a dinner which is