publicly united, of course we know behind closed doors just a week ago, nancy pelosi and these four women were arguing over their progressive policies. and so they see them as less united as a party that could splinter if he keeps driving the wedge. >> yeah. let's, though, play a little devil's advocate here. the idea that this strategy works. set aside what's right, okay, and what the president believes works. he tried a natureivist, carrying a bull horn into the midterms and postmortem it showed that hurt republican candidates in those swing states. is it clear that this is politically positive for the president? >> i just remember talking to a lot of republican strategists in the final weeks of the 2018 midterms and they told me that every time the president talked about the caravan, you look at
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