is michael stopford who used to be a nato deputy assistant secretary general he was also washington director of the u.n. and today he is now managing director of international consulting firm oxford analytical michael welcome to going underground so you don t have to be trump yesterday would stoltenberg to ask what exactly tomorrow we celebrating when they turn seventy anniversaries a strange things i don t know whether one would say celebrating but at least taking stock about thinking what the alliance all about i was in charge of communications at nato when the we had the sixtieth anniversary and it was of course a different time and i must say that relations between for example russia and the alliance were a lot better and more hopeful at that time because some would be surprised to realize that it may have started maybe there was no military bombardment of another country until kind of the berlin wall fell the idea is that the starting words of nato are about bringing tog
lacked a lot of in forstmann procedures which in principle are available to nato ok well i might get back to law in a second your you mention the word security which is a word used again and again in britain alone we re five hundred thousand dead from cancer access cancer deaths because of the bankers grazes according to the lancet ten thousand suicides bridge journals like so i mean isn t the real danger in the two nations. hasn t it the financial services nor outside powers or anyone i guess what you re talking about there really is expenditure on defense and expenditure on important domestic pressing issues i mean is you know president trump is trying to get up to people to contribute up to two percent of their budgets well i think they have in the u.k. but in most other countries they ve not two percent we re not talking you know huge amount of the national budget of course if your prime minister you want to look after people s internal security you want to look after. an
united states. to keep within the letter and spirit of the united nations charter yes nato and the un charter but if one discounts this information propaganda and the sabotage of workers movements nato is first a military action didn t start until after the fall of the berlin wall and they violated that un charter his non-drug ski using work praised by u.s. authorities to deconstruct the nato with ology of the european war in yugoslavia he says the bombing of serbia was not undertaken out of concern for the plight of the customer of maintenance jobs he goes on to allege may join yugoslavia was a neo liberal design even the much criticized mainstream media at the time tried to explain to nato publics that nato was more important than the un in a sense the un is sidelined in all of this so nato bombed without u.n. authorization it even went on to bomb china s embassy in yugoslavia leading to accusations that nato has near liberal desire. we re now attacking a developing world o
charter but if one discounts this information propaganda and the sabotage of workers movements nature is first a military action didn t stop until after the fall of the berlin wall and they violated that un charter his non-drug ski using work praised by u.s. authorities to deconstruct the nato with ology of the european war in yugoslavia he says the bombing of serbia was not undertaken out of concern for the plight of the culture of maintenance jobs he goes on to allege may join yugoslavia was a neo liberal design even the much criticized mainstream media at the time tried to explain to nato publics that nato was more important than the un in a sense the un is sidelined in all of this so nato bombed without u.n. authorization it even went on to bomb china s embassy in yugoslavia leading to accusations that nato has near liberal designs we re now attacking a developing world on the rise splits in nato emerged after action in afghanistan many afghans are. angry about the latest
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