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They got the chance to say no. but it also becomes a totally unpredictable next chapter. not for congress, but for the presidency. if congress says no, and right now it looks like congress is going to say no, will those military strikes happen anyway? president obama and secretary of state john kerry keep asserting over and over again that they believe they have the right to go on their own even if congress says no. are they right? what would that mean? and how uncharted are those waters for us as a country? joining us, nbc news presidential historian, michael beschloss. my pleasure, rachel. can i add something else to the wayne morse tradition of members of congress saying no? please. there was a congressman from my home state of illinois in 1847 who spoke out against the mexican-american war named abraham lincoln. and there had been as you well known and written about it was said by president pope there was an unprovoked attack by mexicans on american territory. lincoln said sh ....
And then he came into a country that was dysfunctional and had to lead it for that period of time. washington was the opposite, where he had at 7, he started writing about who he wanted to be and the virtues and the character that made a man. and so he built himself. that s the important part of this book is you see that what a man accomplishes in his life really doesn t happen at that moment. a man isn t created in crisis. he s revealed in crisis. and so it s how these guys built their whole life. bill: and their achievements now after all these years still tower among the achievements of they re ones who i have lincoln first, you have washington first, but they re one-two. and you know what s funny is lincoln is always in the top five, but i don t think george washington is in the top five. bill: and he should be. no doubt about it. ....