fired or someone is going to try to fire them. and all of them stand between trump and trying to resolve or make go away like if only he could just snap it away the trump/russia investigation. so this story is fascinating and somewhat disconcerting. but it s part of this larger thing that any he wants this done, and he wants it done either because he did something bad financial, or collusion, or or he is really bad at having the truth out. and they re bumbling towards an obstruction ever justice charge based on possibly them not doing anything bad. and that to me would be to me sort of ironic result of the investigation. um-hum. matt, if don mcgahn hadn t convinced the president to take a step back and not fire mueller, what do you think would have happened? could this have been the final
june. but backed down when white house counsel don mcgahn threatened to resign rather than carry outs the directive it happened with the fire storm still raging over the firing of james comey. let s briean matt lewis. the author of the truth about trump and the cnn national security analyst juliette kayyem. this is breaking news. matt i m starting with you, the firing of james comey led to the appointment of the special counsel robert mueller in the first place. and you look at tonight s news, did president trump did he learn anything from that? did it matter? did he care? no, i don t think so. this also goes back to jeff sessions, the attorney general who recused himself which led to this. in donald trump s mind he has not been well served by his team, people who should be loyal to him. this got out of hand. he needs to try foiks it.
permission structure and republicans wouldn t say anything. and so i don t know about june. but injury it s actually more dangerous. i can. go ahead, michael. republicans loved it. you know the tinfoil hats have been handed out for some time on capitol hill and around the country. and it s it doesn t change anything. they have been. and now people are talking about these supposed secret societies which don t exist. that s a conspiracy theory. too many republicans on the hill have been willing to play the same game now. he has sort of deformed our politics and distorted it. and people see it works for him. they re going to defend him in the same way. and i agree with matt. i don t think that today we would face the same crisis we would have faced in june if if had come out back then. juliette. yeah, but the difference the pliks of it i don t know how it plays out.
straw for his republican allies? do you think they would have gone along with it and we would be in a constitutional dlema or crisis or thicket as some have said. that s a good question. donald trump that would have tested i think the bounds. we don t know the answer to that. i would say in. i still think it s possible that he fires that he fires him. and i think that the danger is that he has normalized the idea of doing it. if he had done this back in june, i think there could have been a revolt. you could have had republican senators standing up and saying, no, this is a bridge too far. but we have now we are now entering into an area where there is a lot of talk. matt, you really believe that. we are entering i think we are now entering into into an era where there is talk about deep state kabal s and things like that trump is creating a