for political reasons, as far as we know but he has become a political chess piece. let s bring in james spider marks and a policy researcher at rand corporation. thank you both. spider, as always, thank you for being of such use to my audience all year long. thank you, chris. you are a gift. i welcome you in in you year. phillip, you re new, thank you for being my guest. in terms of context, what do they raise as you for issues spider? the big thing is this really del strai demonstrates a break in terms of the cohesion, specifically within this team. i don t know that i can extr extrapolate and say the seals have a challenge. let sin fra ibe frank, the seal