believe that than him because at the end of the day, they re adults. they re adults, but they re adults who have been swept up in what s truly an authoritarian personality cult. it ticks all the boxes of all the strongmen i ve studied. and when people bond with somebody who has considerable skills you know, trump cultivates them. he tells them he loves them. he s really very skilled at this. they believe him because they believe in him, and they want to believe everything he says. so think about january 6th. it was a leader rescue operation, and there s nothing they won t do to keep the idea of him alive. yeah. and he knows that, and he plays that very well. i think you just articulated what i was trying to say much better than i did. it s mostly about the idea of him. yes, it is him, but it could be
actually won the election. so he s a formidable adversary for democracy. at this point, though, do you think that he s actually making people believe that, or is it more about the people wanting to believe that than him? because at the end of the day, they re adults. they re adults, but they re adults who have been swept up in what s truly an authoritarian personality cult. it ticks all the boxes of all the strong men i ve studied. and when you when people bond with somebody who has considerable skills, you know, trump cultivates them. he tells them he loves them. he s really very skilled at this. they believe him because they believe in him. and they want to believe everything he says. and so think about january 6. it was a leader rescue operation. and there s nothing they won t do to keep him to keep the idea of him alive. and he knows that and he plays
authoritarian leader. and just because he couldn t wreck our democracy yet doesn t mean he didn t check all the boxes. my book was the first to put him in historical perspective. not saying he is hitler, because today things work differently. you don t have to close down elections. you keep them going but you declare them fraudulent, right? but the leader cult, and now we have the creation of martyrs like ashli babbitt. he draws a lot of things from fascism, both italian fascism and of course naziism. january 6, i was shuddering like so many americans. with the added thing, it was like a leader rescue operation. he called the faithful there and then he set them on the capitol. and this film that was playing as they left was just it ended with just trump s face up there. so this is entirely fascistic, this leader cult, the psychological warfare, and all
our democracy yet doesn t mean he didn t check all the boxes. my book was the first to put him in historical perspective, not saying that he is hitler because today things work differently. you don t have to, you know, close down elections. you keep them going, but you declare them fraudulent, right? but the leader cult, and now we have the creation of martyrs like ashli babbitt. he draws a lot of things from fascism, both italian fascism and, of course, nazi-ism. and january 6th, i was shuddering that so many americans but with the added thing it was like a leader rescue operation and he called the faithful there. then he set them on the capitol, and this film that was playing as they left was just it ended with just trump s face up there. so this is entirely fascistic. so this leader cult and the psychological warfare and all of it is it s very it s very