from that group s own decision about whether or not there should be action taken in response to the fraudulent electors thing. he was one of the fraudulent electors. he does not want to recuse, he wants to participate in the decision-making about what should happen to himself. it s a little bit hard to tell, i think that s the best we understand. when we did ask the elections commission, we filed a motion asking that he recuse himself. and there was a briefing schedule, where everybody who had a view on this was supposed to share that view with the elections, commission mr. spend dull did not submit any arguments for briefing, but then in late october, there was a meeting where he seemed to be complaining about the idea of having to recuse himself. and that does seem to suggest he s resisting. this but we are really not sure. i think as your laughter point, so it s fundamental to american justice, that one does not get to be the judge in one zone case. and so mr. spindle was one of t